In this series, I will talk about how to use Seattle as an alternate airport for those in the Vancouver area and Vancouver Island.
Related Posts
- Overview of Seattle Airport
- Examples of Savings over Vancouver / YVR
- Driving from the Vancouver Area
- Parking at SEA
- Other Ground Transportation
- Getting there from Victoria and Vancouver Island
Both Victoria and Vancouver are beautiful cities on Canada’s west coast. Victoria’s airport (YYJ) has very limited service and often requires a stop in Vancouver (YVR) for most flights out of Western Canada. Vancouver’s airport serves certain markets very well but some markets are not served very well. For the times when flights are expensive or inconvenient out of YVR or YYJ, it is good to know that Seattle – Tacoma Airport (SEA) makes a good alternative.
The Skinny
SEA Address | 17801 International Blvd. Seattle, WA 98158 |
Contact | www.portseattle.org Tel: (800) 544-1965 |
Savings Required | $75 / way over YVR or YYJ |
Distance from Vancouver | 250km or 3 hours |
Distance from Victoria | 300km or 3.5 hours |
Parking costs | $6 – $10 / day |
Bus (from Vancouver) | US$50 / person & 3 hours |
Why SEA?
As is the case for Buffalo airport, as an alternative to Toronto, SEA can be a good option for if you are flying from Vancouver. Most of your savings are going to be for flights going to the US. Another advantage is that there are some very good long haul domestic routes and international routes that are direct from SEA, but do not fly direct to YVR or YYJ.
SEA acts as a hub for Alaska Airlines and Horizon Air. United Airlines and Delta airlines also use offer some long haul routes to Asia and Europe from Seattle. As a result, you are going to find direct flights to most major US cities. It is also a desired stop for international carriers. For example, KLM flies a direct flight to Amsterdam, and Emirates flies a direct flight from Seattle to Dubai. For Vancouverites interested in flying internationally on Emirates, flying out of Seattle, instead of YVR, can have significant dollar and time savings.
I like to see the route maps of all the cities that there is direct service for from Seattle Airport. If you are doing a 1-1 comparison to destinations served by YVR compared to SEA, there is a distinct increase in the destinations that can be accessed by direct flights.
Something to bear in mind would be that many flights departing from YVR actually route through SEA. When this is the case, it is important to consider whether it makes sense to do that first leg of the journey to Seattle on the ground yourself or if it makes sense to let the airline do that for you.
Here is an article on why Canadians are using US airports to fly out of.
Comparisons
Unlike Toronto’s alternative airport of Buffalo, Seattle doesn’t tend to have the ridiculous dollar savings over YVR across the board. The best savings tend to come on the US – bound portion of a flight. The taxes for traveling to the US tend to be very high out of YVR and if you have the freedom to fly out of SEA, but into YVR, you will probably have the best dollar return for your time. In general, you will have relatively small dollar savings but more significant time savings with more direct flights out of SEA.
Here are some examples of roundtrip savings (all USD):
Destination | Dates | Departure | Arrival | Number of Stops | Roundtrip Price | Winner |
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New York | 3/9-3/16 | SEA | JFK | Direct | $316 | SEA (money) |
YVR | JFK | Direct | $664 | |||
Boston | 5/9-5/14 | SEA | BOS | Direct | $336 | SEA (time and money) |
YVR | BOS | 1-stop | $563 | |||
Toronto | 4/11-4/15 | YVR | YYZ | Direct | $625 | Time vs Money tradeoff |
SEA | YYZ | Direct | $604 | |||
SEA | YYZ | 1-stop | $516 | |||
Hong Kong | Apr 2013 | YVR | HKG | Direct | $999 | YVR |
SEA | HKG | 1-stop | $875 | |||
Dubai | Sep 2013 | SEA | DXB | Direct | $1323 | Time vs Money tradeoff |
YVR | DXB | 1-stop | $1439 | |||
YVR | DXB | 2-stop | $1318 |
Prices shown were available as of February 13, 2013.
Something of note for people who are thinking about flying into one airport and out of another. Similar to Toronto, flights departing to the US from YVR have higher taxes and fees than those arriving into Canada from the US. If you are considering using a US airport for only 1 of your legs, then I suggest flying OUT of Seattle and INTO YVR to save on the taxes.
Does flying out of SEA make sense for you?
I would imagine that making the decision to fly out of SEA vs YVR would depend strongly on where you live in the Vancouver area. Since Vancouver has grown pretty much to the Canada-US border, many suburban Vancouverites can spend a similar amount of time getting to YVR as they do to SEA.
When doing your own considerations, make sure to budget the time it takes to get to SEA from wherever you are in the city as well as costs, including gas, parking, tolls (if driving) and bus fare (if taking the bus).
If you are flying out of SEA, your border crossing is going to be on the ground instead of in the air. Remember to budget the lineup for border crossing into the US at YVR as that may be time consuming. Also, if you have a Nexus or Global Entry then you need to take that into account.
When doing an analysis for whether flying out of SEA makes sense, I feel it is important to look at all the dollar and time costs. Here is an analysis for the first example where 4 people are traveling to New York.
1. Ground Transportation
Assume we start at Metrotown Centre (V5H4M1)
YVR | SEA | Savings (costs) SEA vs YVR |
Assumptions | |
---|---|---|---|---|
Gas | $3.37 | $47.20 | -$32.80 | $3.99/gallon & 25 MPG |
Tolls | $0.00 | $0.00 | $0.00 | No tolls |
Parking | $0.00* | $126.00 | -$126.0 | YVR: no cost if you can get a ride SEA: parking for 2 weeks at Ajax |
Total Ground |
$3.37 | $173.20 | -$169.83 |
2. Flights
Assume 4 travelers, checking 1 bag each way.
YVR (per person) |
YVR (4 persons) |
SEA (per person) |
SEA (4 persons) |
Savings (costs) SEA vs YVR |
Assumptions | |
---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
Roundtrip Flight | $664 | $2656 | $316 | $1264 | $1392 | |
Baggage Fees | $0 | $0 | $0 | $0 | $0 | Bag fees can be avoided by flying Southwest or Jetblue (from SEA) or on Westjet or Cathay (from YVR) |
Total Flight | $664 | $2656 | $316 | $1264 | $1392 |
The best flights on both of these routes are run by carriers who include one piece of checked baggage with the flight. Cathay Pacific runs YVR-JFK and Jetblue runs SEA-JFK. For analytical honesty, I will assume that the bag charges will be the same on both routes.
3. Time Costs
Outbound (to New York):
YVR | SEA | Assumptions | |
---|---|---|---|
Travel to the airport | 25 min | 150 min | |
US Border Crossing | 45 min | 20 min | US bound passengers must allow an extra 45 mins for US customs at YVR |
Traffic Buffer | 15 min | 30 min | |
Total Outbound Travel Time | 85 min | 200 min |
Inbound (to Vancouver):
YVR | SEA | Assumptions | |
---|---|---|---|
Canada Border Crossing | 20 min | 20 min | |
Travel to Toronto from Airport | 25 min | 150 min | |
Total Inbound Travel Time | 45 min | 170 min |
Roundtrip Travel Time:
YYZ | BUF | Difference | |
---|---|---|---|
Outbound Time | 85 min | 200 min | 115 min |
Inbound Time | 45 min | 170 min | 125 min |
Total Travel Time | 130 min | 370 min | 240 min |
4. Analysis
Ground Transport costs: -$169.83
Flight Savings: $1392
Total Dollar Savings: $1222
Time Cost: 240 min
So, in this case it looks like you are saving $1222 for 4 people and it only cost you an extra 240 min. This is a savings of $305 / person, or about $75 / hour.
Recap
Flying out of alternate airports can be a big money saver for Canadians. Canadian airports tend to be very expensive, and Vancouver (YVR) and Victoria (YYJ) are no different. Vancouverites can use Seattle-Tacoma Airport (SEA) as an alternative. For many living in Vancouver’s southern suburbs such as Surrey or White Rock, it will be more advantageous to fly out of SEA.
In this article, I showed you how to save $300 / person by going this route. If you are considering flying out of SEA instead of YVR, make sure to include your flight cost savings, ground transportation costs and time costs associated with using SEA over YVR or YYJ.
Next time you are looking at flying out of one of Vancouver’s airports, consider investigating whether flying out of SEA makes sense for you.